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: It is never explicitly stated, but strongly implied [http://www.gametrailers.com/player/4714.html here]. I'm going to start playing the game again sometime soon, hopefully, so perhaps I'll find more. Adding a "maybe" to the statement in the article would make it worse in my opinion, but removing it altogether isn't the right option either, as the Liandri are relatively new at least. Not sure there is a way to say that without making it sound stupid though. Hmmm, maybe just saying it like I just did, that UC2 cutscenes imply the Liandri are new this year or something like that. [[User:Retodon8|Retodon8]] 19:07, 13 August 2007 (EDT)
 
: It is never explicitly stated, but strongly implied [http://www.gametrailers.com/player/4714.html here]. I'm going to start playing the game again sometime soon, hopefully, so perhaps I'll find more. Adding a "maybe" to the statement in the article would make it worse in my opinion, but removing it altogether isn't the right option either, as the Liandri are relatively new at least. Not sure there is a way to say that without making it sound stupid though. Hmmm, maybe just saying it like I just did, that UC2 cutscenes imply the Liandri are new this year or something like that. [[User:Retodon8|Retodon8]] 19:07, 13 August 2007 (EDT)
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: Let's leave it this way for now. I'll watch the cinematics again sometime this week and see if I can find out anything about that. --[[User:Sir Brizz|Sir Brizz]] 00:17, 14 August 2007 (EDT)
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==One planet?==
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Before my rewrite the article mentioned the Ascension Rites all take place on the Nakhti homeworld. I remember it differently, but to be honest I'm not sure. Every arena fought in features Nakhti architecture, but the environments don't look identical either. Most planets in the Unreal universe are just like those in Star Wars; either jungle, water, desert, lava, or whatever, but not like Earth with more diverse climates around the globe. So... is somebody else certain about this? If so it's relevant/important enough to re-add somewhere. Thanks! [[User:Retodon8|Retodon8]] 10:34, 14 August 2007 (EDT)
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==Date==
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I edited this. there is no solid information on the year. Jim Brown said that Selket would have been an infant at the time of UT3, and UT3 is after 2303, so 2315 cannot be correct. --[[User:Sir Brizz|Sir Brizz]] 17:48, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
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:The early 2320s would be more likely, then... although that would conflict with Malcolm's ages as well... unless he has things to retard his aging, which isn't all that unreasonable when you take his background into effect, as if he didn't have implants, he'd be in his 60s in UC2, whereas I believe it's explicitly mentioned somewhere that he's 51 around that time. Of course, it's also entirely possible that UT3 only takes place shortly after UT2004, and not years later... but even then that'd give a early 2320s date at best, and that's assuming Selket would've been 3 or 4 perhaps at the time of UT2004. We'll probably have a better grasp on this once we know what year UT3 takes place in, because then we can work from that, of course. --[[User:Dark Pulse|Dark Pulse]] 18:37, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
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Here is [http://forums.epicgames.com/showpost.php?p=24709885&postcount=9 the post in question]. --[[User:Sir Brizz|Sir Brizz]] 00:54, 16 August 2007 (EDT)
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::I'm copying this from my other post on the topic:
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:::It's just my take on this subject, nothing official. Take a look at this: [http://planetunreal.gamespy.com/View.php?view=UC2GameInfo.Detail&id=6&game=7]
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:::Malcolm's age in UC2 is 54 and 42 in UT2004. So it's 12 years after the 2303 tournament. Same works for Sapphire who is 27 in UT2004 and 39 in UC2. In case of Gorge, it would be 2310 and 2318 in case of Arclite. I take it Malcolm is the most important character, we don't want his back to be broken too soon, so I think 2315 should be taken as the year of UC2 taking place. We can always make it 2310-2318 but those are Jugs :P noone can take them seriously. --[[User:QJohnnyp|QJohnnyp]] 20:06, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
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::2315 makes sense. It's about the middle of the possible dates. And Brown didn't have exact dates. Selket would be ~14 at the time of UT2004. Two years before becoming Anubis' fiancee. She began her training as a warrior after being rejected by Anubis- she still couldn't be included in UT3, being a n00b and JB.--[[User:QJohnnyp|QJohnnyp]] 08:05, 16 August 2007 (EDT)
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I don't think there is anyway we can figure out the answer. If Selket were under 10 years old at the time of 2k4 (which is being very generous with the term "infant"), there is no way that it takes place 12 years after UT2004. --[[User:Sir Brizz|Sir Brizz]] 10:47, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

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Have a source on this being the first time Liandri has sponsored the ascension rites? --Sir Brizz 15:51, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

It is never explicitly stated, but strongly implied here. I'm going to start playing the game again sometime soon, hopefully, so perhaps I'll find more. Adding a "maybe" to the statement in the article would make it worse in my opinion, but removing it altogether isn't the right option either, as the Liandri are relatively new at least. Not sure there is a way to say that without making it sound stupid though. Hmmm, maybe just saying it like I just did, that UC2 cutscenes imply the Liandri are new this year or something like that. Retodon8 19:07, 13 August 2007 (EDT)
Let's leave it this way for now. I'll watch the cinematics again sometime this week and see if I can find out anything about that. --Sir Brizz 00:17, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

One planet?

Before my rewrite the article mentioned the Ascension Rites all take place on the Nakhti homeworld. I remember it differently, but to be honest I'm not sure. Every arena fought in features Nakhti architecture, but the environments don't look identical either. Most planets in the Unreal universe are just like those in Star Wars; either jungle, water, desert, lava, or whatever, but not like Earth with more diverse climates around the globe. So... is somebody else certain about this? If so it's relevant/important enough to re-add somewhere. Thanks! Retodon8 10:34, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

Date

I edited this. there is no solid information on the year. Jim Brown said that Selket would have been an infant at the time of UT3, and UT3 is after 2303, so 2315 cannot be correct. --Sir Brizz 17:48, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

The early 2320s would be more likely, then... although that would conflict with Malcolm's ages as well... unless he has things to retard his aging, which isn't all that unreasonable when you take his background into effect, as if he didn't have implants, he'd be in his 60s in UC2, whereas I believe it's explicitly mentioned somewhere that he's 51 around that time. Of course, it's also entirely possible that UT3 only takes place shortly after UT2004, and not years later... but even then that'd give a early 2320s date at best, and that's assuming Selket would've been 3 or 4 perhaps at the time of UT2004. We'll probably have a better grasp on this once we know what year UT3 takes place in, because then we can work from that, of course. --Dark Pulse 18:37, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Here is the post in question. --Sir Brizz 00:54, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

I'm copying this from my other post on the topic:
It's just my take on this subject, nothing official. Take a look at this: [1]
Malcolm's age in UC2 is 54 and 42 in UT2004. So it's 12 years after the 2303 tournament. Same works for Sapphire who is 27 in UT2004 and 39 in UC2. In case of Gorge, it would be 2310 and 2318 in case of Arclite. I take it Malcolm is the most important character, we don't want his back to be broken too soon, so I think 2315 should be taken as the year of UC2 taking place. We can always make it 2310-2318 but those are Jugs :P noone can take them seriously. --QJohnnyp 20:06, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
2315 makes sense. It's about the middle of the possible dates. And Brown didn't have exact dates. Selket would be ~14 at the time of UT2004. Two years before becoming Anubis' fiancee. She began her training as a warrior after being rejected by Anubis- she still couldn't be included in UT3, being a n00b and JB.--QJohnnyp 08:05, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

I don't think there is anyway we can figure out the answer. If Selket were under 10 years old at the time of 2k4 (which is being very generous with the term "infant"), there is no way that it takes place 12 years after UT2004. --Sir Brizz 10:47, 16 August 2007 (EDT)